[os-infrastructure] Why is this list hidden?

[Grant Croker]

Hi David,

I set-up the list and closed it off, thinking that we, internally, need 
to get our own story straight.  If this is to be an open discussion we 
should be using comp.databases.ingres or the community forums, not 
creating another mailing list clique. I have just de-cloaked this list.

regards

grant

On 02/05/08 18:58, David Tondreau wrote:
> My first post to this list should probably be a positive 
> contribution.  Instead, its a gripe.  Sorry.
>
> I would think a list about open source infrastructure would be open.  
> Is there a reason this list is not shown on lists.ingres.com?  If the 
> intent is to keep it Ingres Corp. only, why not send a broadcast 
> message to all of Engineering, Support, QA, and Services to let folks 
> know about the discussions going on.  I'm sure the intent was not to 
> be exclusive, but by not advertising these forums, that is exactly 
> what we are.  My understanding is that Bill has told us to "engineer 
> in the open."  Why not involve everyone in conversations that are core 
> to the process?
>
> The problem that we have is that so many things go on in this company 
> that people with a legitimate "need to know" (or more importantly, 
> "need to have input") have no idea that they are even happening.  In 
> the words of Paul Newman in /Cool Hand Luke/:  "What we have here is a 
> failure to communicate."


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