[os-infrastructure] http://community.ingres.com/ was Re: Model discussion boiled dry(er)

[Teresa L. King]

We have set up a team to focus on addressing issues with
http://community.ingres.com/  as well as improving the look and feel of
the community wiki. We are also very focused on the content needs of the
Wiki. There is a lot of information on the wiki but not necessarily easy
to find :( This is a joint project from members of engineering,(myself,
David Tondreau, Andrew Ross, & Bill), Product Management, Marketing, and
IT.  There have already been some changes to the Community Wiki as a
result of these discussions. Improved options in the Site Toolbox for
starters.  It's not perfect and it is expected to be ever-evolving as we
learn more about what is needed in the community and engineering in the
Open.  The requirements will keep changing, what may seem to work for us
today, may not make sense 6 months from now.  As such we are not only
looking at quick fixes for improving the experience but also long term
infrastructure changes that may be required based on how we and others
in the Community are utilizing the Wiki. This in part has driven several
folks, myself included, to look at Gforge and Jira.

Feel free to email me any thoughts you may have on improving the
Community Site and the Wiki and I'll present them to the group on your
behalf. I suspect most of your concerns are probably items we've already
discussed and are trying to resolve. For example, I had what should have
been a 5 minute discussion with Marketing today on one aspect of the
site, the Projects link, that turned into a 1.5hr discussion. A fix was
decided on prior to the start of the meeting but the discussion evolved
from there.

Please don't beat me up on the fact that this group has not been exposed
to others.  I've certainly soliticed feedback from a lot of different
groups/folks with varying degrees of results.  We are deliberately
keeping the core team small although input is appreciated from all.

I'm certainly happy to keep a list of items discussions, plans, etc.
available on the wiki somewhere so others can see what is being
discussed and where we seem to be going although hopefully you'll see
the changes implemented as you access the site. I'll try to get this
started tomorrow as I'm actually behind on providing some information
that needs to go out today or I would do it now.

Teresa

-----Original Message-----
From: opensource-infrastructure-bounces at lists.ingres.com
[mailto:opensource-infrastructure-bounces at lists.ingres.com] On Behalf Of
Chris Clark
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:06 PM
To: Discussions about the infrastructure needed to support a true open
sourcecommunity
Subject: Re: [os-infrastructure] Re: Model discussion boiled dry(er)

On 6/26/2008 10:45 AM, Daryl Monge wrote:
> On Jun 26, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Joseph C. Kronk wrote:
>> The open source projects as they stand right now are too different to

>> have a single comprehensive policy but could converge as we gain 
>> experience in putting forth some initial policies and then begin to 
>> accept contributions to the respective projects.
>
> I have been reading quite a bit of traffic on this, but to be honest I

> am still having some difficulty understanding the differences and the 
> requirements driving them.  Any succinct help (re-hash?) would be 
> appreciated.

http://community.ingres.com/wiki/Community_Model will be the starting
place for this information. I know the OpenROAD folks hope to have some
content up soon/next week.

Again http://community.ingres.com/wiki/Community_Model is not (yet) an
appropriate place for discussion, it is for fleshed out proposals.


 From another email:
> I think we should keep our eye on other Open Source sites and try to 
> maintain a best practices.  Most sites have the "How to Contribute 
> somewhere" but I failed to dig deep enough on hours. My brain was used

> to looking at sourceforce......... :-)

Excellent point, our site is different from most other sites.

Admittedly other sites are not consistent with each other either but 
they are usually not that different. My rule of check list for finding 
code in scs;

   1. check for obvious scs links (svn, cvs, bzr, etc)
   2. check the download button, sometimes this lists both tarballs and
      the scs link(s)
   3. then check for a dev link


I do not have a good solution to this, other than a static (or cms) 
website, http://community.ingres.com/ would be the ideal starting url 
for this.

It seems to me that whilst the current content on 
http://community.ingres.com/  (actually 
http://community.ingres.com/forums/home.php ) is interesting, it is 
rather marketing in focus and doesn't really deal with Ingres. The 
Ingres (Ingres OpenROAD, Download Ingres 2006 r3 Builds, Get Involved 
with Ingres) stuff is tucked away at the bottom.

Does anyone have a wish list what should be on the "front door"?

Chris

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