[os-infrastructure] RE: [os-engineering] Model discussion boiled down

Alex Hanshaw Alex.Hanshaw at ingres.com
Wed Jun 25 02:09:29 PDT 2008


Hi Joe

 The idea is that you state what you prefer and why. That allows as all
as a group to provide pros and cons for both approaches so that Andrew
can present the options to management and get a choice made.

 Alex

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:opensource-engineering-bounces at lists.ingres.com] On Behalf Of
Joe Abbate
Sent: 25 June 2008 03:05
To: Andrew Ross
Cc: Open Source Engineering; Open Source Infrastructure
Subject: Re: [os-engineering] Model discussion boiled down

Hi Andrew,

Andrew Ross wrote:
> Agreed, VMS makes things interesting. Mainframe even moreso.
>
> Solaris, AIX, HP-UX give us GNU tools, a subversion client, and other
> libraries which means we have a hope of keeping in lockstep.
>
> What do you think our options are regarding VMS? Which would you
prefer?
>   

I don't think the decision should be made on what I prefer.  Rather, 
Christine, Deb and others should take a look at the VMS revenue, 
customer base, and other business considerations (like the HP VMS 
Roadmap) and take a decision whether supporting a VMS "community" is in 
Ingres Corp's best interests.   I haven't seen much of a community.  The

forums only turn up 35 messages with "vms" in them and I suspect a third

of them are from the old CA forums.  I helped two people build 3.0.x 
(i.e., 9.0.x) from source, on VMS at CA.  One was from the AP and I 
believe he wasn't an actual customer.  The second was someone at a 
Canadian university (Nova Scotia IIRC).

OTOH, I think we still have a, maybe substantial, number of VMS 
commercial customers in the U.S., Canada and Europe which are waiting 
for the GA cluster support release and/or an Itanium migration solution 
(which we're working on).  I do not know what their interests in "new" 
features like Unicode coercion or UTF-8 may be.

Joe
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