[os-infrastructure] State of the onion

[Bodo Bergmann]

Andrew,

I agree that WE (that includes David and myself)
should enforce and empower the community,
play our role as know-how multiplier, etc.
And I think we do (also using community wiki/forums, development
sprints, etc.)

So I would truly welcome more community involvement -
which would also change roles from developers to mentors and peer
reviewer, etc.

With my questions I just referred to your statement
"If indeed 95% of the work will always be Ingres employees, meaning
we're
open code, but not open source."

But I still think the 5% external contribution is a good guess -
each of the contributions will also require quite some internal work
(review, QA, documentation, etc.)
at least when taking over the code from a community contribution into a
main codeline,
so the main workload (in measurement of time) will remain internal.

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[mailto:opensource-infrastructure-bounces at lists.ingres.com] On Behalf Of
Andrew Ross
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 9:57 PM
To: Discussions about the infrastructure needed to support a true
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Subject: RE: [os-infrastructure] State of the onion

Bodo,

It isn't how many contributions we've had. 

Incidentally, a handful from Marty Bowes, OGR driver support enabling
GIS applications to run on Ingres from Frank Warmerdam, a couple from a
team in China, a few contributions from interns in
Ottawa/Warwick/Ilmenau, an EXPLAIN command from Kai-Uwe Sattler from
Ilmenau U., a joint contribution Chris Dawe did with Alex Hanshaw, some
Google summer of code projects, etc. These are the ones I know about off
the cuff.

More importantly, how many people have WE brought into the community and
mentored to get them started. That's the key.

In terms of your comments about DBMS core developers. Two weeks ago I
sat in a room with over 200 PostgreSQL community members at pgcon. Not
all are core mind you, but not all need to be. It was the same thing at
osbootcamp6 for the PostGIS talk. Building a community around an open
source DBMS is entirely feasible.

If anything, we have a huge advantage in our dedicated employees and
resources.

Andrew